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Sep172020

2021 Tour Cancellations...

A sad and expected (by me, at least) report from my friends at MetalSucks that tour cancellations are already starting for 2021. Monster Magnet called off their early 2021 run. It was rescheduled once already and I think they made the right call here to just refund money to their fans. MetalSucks writes:


Monster Magnet, to their credit, aren’t deluding themselves that concerts will be possible in January. Even if shows are miraculously allowed to take place by then — amidst what is expected to be a winter resurgence of Covid-19 on top of the fact that the disease never went away in many places to begin with — what would those shows even look like? High-level tours can’t make a profit without big-money “anchor dates” in cities like New York, Chicago and Los Angeles subsidizing small-dollar-earning or loss-bearing shows in less populated markets, and those places won’t be hosting shows any time soon. What’s more, bands and venues alike can’t make the dollars work if they’re limited to 25% or even 50% capacity. And all that assumes fans will be willing to venture out to enclosed, poorly-ventilated venues to begin with.


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Reader Comments (14)

Here we go...

Monster Magnet was actually one of the shows on my calendar back in April - I was going more for the opening band Silvertomb (check out related comments in the recent Quiet Riot post, as Silvertomb features drummer Johnny Kelly).

It sure doesn't feel like shows are coming back any time soon. As much as this sucks for fans, it REALLY sucks for the people who had been making their living in this industry; from road crew to promoters, venues, and the artists themselves.

And now the USA government has doubled the cost of visas for bands entering the country. So when this thing does open back up there will still be a reduction in overall shows (and variety) in North America. Good job, DHS!

The whole thing just sucks.
September 17, 2020 | Unregistered CommenterMike
Absolutely ridiculous to be cancelling 2021 tours.
September 17, 2020 | Unregistered CommenterJeff
What Jeff said 👍
September 17, 2020 | Unregistered CommenterGary
This isn't surprising to me at all. Some clubs that I go to have been playing an optimistic game of 'move the goalposts' in the vain hope that scheduled shows that have been cancelled (or 'postponed' in the swill-language of the bigger corporations that want to hold on to money) will be up and running again in a month, then a few months, then a few more months, then (sigh) next year.

This is not dissimilar to what is happening in other areas of life. I get it. There is the hope for normalcy. When? Soon. When is that? Um, later? And while there are some good signs on the horizon--Eric Chou’s show in Taiwan in front of 10,000 people likely made some smile--there are also some annoyingly less good signs as well: Sturgis (yes, I know they over-hyped the transmission fallout from that event); recent up-ticks in Europe, and problems in other places as well. This big marble is a lot smaller that we thought, even if the situation on the ground differs radically when you move from county to county and state to state, not to mention country to country or continent to continent (see, I am doing an expansive thing here). My point? What is normal is not necessarily normal in another place. And you then have to factor in the mixing of trends when people hop on a plane (even one to nowhere!), get in a car, ride in a bus, or travel beyond their zone of normalcy. I hear weddings in Maine are lovely this time of year. Can't make those dates work? Well then think about hopping in a time machine so you can attend the Biogen conference this past February. You can't attend either of those functions? Don't worry. We can bring the fun to you!!!

But I agree with Mike. It sucks for all those who depend on concerts for their livelihoods: the people who own the venues, those that work for them, the bars and restaurants that surround those venues, the drivers that ferry people to and from the venues, the staff at the hotels where people from out of town stay, and the persons who do the load-in and load-out for the bands, as well as their additional staff and families, that play at the venues before and after staying at hotels in the surrounding area. There is a ripple effect to all the damage that COVID-19 has caused. We are only seeing the first of what are likely to be many more waves. When you plug that into the larger matrix, it is easy to get really depressed (see my paragraph above). I hate the use of the word 'systemic' (for reasons I will keep to myself). But that fits when you talk about the hell that has been wrought by this virus . . . and the damage done is just starting. And please note: even if I was standing precariously on a soapbox of sorts (and I don't think it was a particularly foamy one), I left politics, and optics, and framing out of my comments. You can talk about the damage and not resort to flinging mud at people who have opinions that differ (with apologies to those from Biogen, who didn't really know, and to those in Maine, who probably should have had some clue).

Having said all that, I have to ask (and do so respectfully): what is 'ridiculous' about these cancellations, Jeff? I am just trying to contextualize your response. Nothing more or less.

I hope everyone has a safe and healthy weekend. And, in the words of Monster Magnet, "Polish them rockets now and swallow those pills!" I think that is proverb of some sort.
September 18, 2020 | Unregistered CommenterHim
. . . "a" proverb of some sort. Again, my editor!
September 18, 2020 | Unregistered CommenterHim
I'm trying to come to grips with the fact that we're probably going to be in this state until next summer, and it likely means no Sonic Temple in the spring, which sucks beyond belief.

It's probably my advancing age speaking, but the first couple months of all this actually felt kind of nice. I generally have lots things on the go - shows, trips, sports, etc., and it was refreshing to have a clean slate for a while. But man, those feelings have passed. I really miss concerts, I miss going out and acting stupid with friends, and I miss things being normal.

Speaking of Sonic Temple, I'm wondering what the folks at DWP are thinking right now. Obviously, they are as aware of the situation as anyone, and know that chances of having 3 major festivals in May is pretty low. It wouldn't surprise me if they move everything to September or October next year.
September 18, 2020 | Unregistered CommenterBryon
I question what is the end game here? Covid is never going to up and disappear or just "go away". And for the record, I am not a conspiracy theorist, but there are things happening inthe media and politically that make you scratch your head. Depending on which media you listen to or read, you get different direction. Dr. Fauci is the biggest fraud and flip-flopper there is. He changes his opinion as much as he changes his underwear (I assume he wears them, lol)

I'm not saying blow the door open and let it be a free for all, but there are ways to do this by cutting attendance, taking temps when people enter, requiring masks, etc. But to outright cancel is Yes, Ridiculous

Sooner or later, we will have to move on from from lockdowns and closures to "risk management".
September 18, 2020 | Unregistered CommenterJeff
I'm not gonna be a harbinger of dire "the end of the world as we knew it before" prediction type, like so many others. Imo, reread that if you must, we will have shows back in 2021, and real shows not garbage drive-in stuff. Masks will be expected and required but trying to police a big show on this matter, is one hell of an undertaking. The ppl that are less concerned will find a way to go and try to follow the rules, some that are more concerned will stay home, the way it should be. There will be some that don't follow the rules as much and that should be expected and handled accordingly. Everyone said sports would be a couple of years from returning, back in April, now look where we are. They're not only back in full force but a lot are even letting fans attend.
September 18, 2020 | Unregistered Commenterbkallday
Fauci is no fraud, but those calling him one likely are, especially when the nuances of learning about a novel virus are ignored and changing information not considered. All along, Fauci said things would not be "normal" until late 2021 or early 2022. This is what we're looking at now. Wear your mask and wash your hands. Stay home as much as possible. - Allyson
September 18, 2020 | Registered CommenterAllyson B. Crawford
No, take precautions and live your life. Those who wish to stay inside, please do. And yes, Fauci is a fraud. His decisions are clearly politically based at this point and his reversals are stunning.
September 18, 2020 | Unregistered CommenterJeff
@Jeff Your first 2 sentences in your rebuttal say it all. Be smart,but life is way too short. So Live it. To quote Mr. Morrison, “ No one here gets out alive”. (Just the opinion of a really old guy. ) Lol
September 18, 2020 | Unregistered CommenterGary
I hear you, Bryon. There was a bit of bliss in the early stage of this (for those of us who could afford that bliss). I think that DWP is in a particularly precariously position, given that they place themselves in the realm of 'independent' concert promotion. If companies like Live Nation are suffering, you have to believe that DWP is also suffering right now. It is hard to uphold the goal of "long-term growth, strong community relationships, unparalleled experiences and significant economic impact" when at least three of those are currently very difficult to follow through on. They aren't going to be making coin with live-streams of Corey Taylor reminding us all of how awesome he is!

Hmm. Well, Jeff, I think you answered my question in a roundabout way. So thanks for that. I guess you and I disagree on some of the finer points re: this virus. That is fine. But that is also what complicates an overall plan and makes living here so damn great (normally). The paradox of living in a republic is both its strength and its weakness. So I have no interest in a granular debate with you. You do you. And others will do as they see fit, as you point out.

Bkallday, the glory of sports is a mixed-bag when it comes to this virus. I am not saying that you painted an overly optimistic picture of things. But I will say that decision-making involved in both professional and collegiate sports is often questionable, occasionally contradictory, and at times inspiring. Some sports are designed for a careful approach; others are not. So we will see what plays out (no pun intended) as sports-related organizations tinker with this new normal. And, here again, is an area with a lot of people dependent on sports for their livelihoods. So I empathize with them, more than I do the guy in the Viking Helmet who needs a braut. Is that political? I don't think so. I guess I am just choosing to think about those who work at these events (including the players) more than I am those who attend the same.

As I noted previously, and regardless what anyone thinks about the virus or how one should go about protecting themselves or finding ways to find relief from all of this, the impact is going to be ongoing and widely felt. My heart goes out to those who lose loved one or their livelihoods.

That is just the opinion of an old-ish-adjacent person with bi-focals! And, Gary, quoting Morrison was priceless! That said, you can influence the manner of your departure! Jim certainly did! He went from Lizard King to an extra on a show called "Lumberjack Confidential." The show is about to end . . . I mean, begin.
September 19, 2020 | Unregistered CommenterHim
@Him. Pretty soon I’ll be wearing track suits and hollering at kids to get the hell off of my lawn. 😂🤟
September 19, 2020 | Unregistered CommenterGary
Invite me over, Gary. I have a great poking-stick that I could use to help you!!!
September 20, 2020 | Unregistered CommenterHim

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