'Crazy From The Heat' (And Monday)
Monday, June 18, 2018 at 06:18AM
I saw Tommy Lee feuded with his son Brandon on Instagram for Father's Day. That's pretty sad. Laura Bush penned an op-ed about the Trump policy of ripping kids from their parents at the border. That's even sadder. You can't request asylum until you are into a country's border. To then snatch a tiny child and shove it into a tent in 100+ Texas heat alone? Monstrous.
I worked all weekend on various projects. I don't think I've had my music on in four straight days. I went heads down at my desk last Wednesday, just trying to slam some stuff out. I popped on Def Leppard's Hysteria and just got some stuff done. That's always my work go to when I need to focus. I think it's because I know the album so well, I just sort of make it background noise at this point instead of active listening.I live in a border state. I appreciate the need to enforce and protect our international boundaries, but this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart.https://t.co/he1uw1E96A
— Laura Bush (@laurawbush) June 18, 2018
Since I'll be setting up hundreds of chairs and tables for today, maybe I'll pop on music for everyone to enjoy while work. "Crazy From The Heat" seems like a good plan! Here's something random: a video for the casting call of the "Crazy From The Heat" video clip:
And the actual clip, of course:
Reader Comments (48)
I tried to hold back, but I can’t.
Allyson, I apologize in advance for the language. It just can’t be helped.
First, let me offer an analogy that perhaps the right wingers will understand: A 6-year-old child is EXPELLED from school because he or she raised their thumb and extended their forefinger and said “BANG”. That is a ZERO TOLERANCE policy. Pretty fucking stupid, isn’t it? Laws need to be written, applied and enforced with a scary thing called THOUGHT. Does everyone remember the terms “letter of the law” and “spirit of the law”? And as Allyson pointed out, there is no law mandating separating children from their parents while being detained (and perhaps seeking asylum, which could take months or even years to go through the process). While the current administration rails against the dangers and violence of MS-13 (and rightly so) and how we must eradicate them and keep them from our borders (yes Mr. Trump, that’s how you spell “borders”, not “boarders”), Mr. J. Beauregard Sessions rules that asylum seekers claiming gang violence or domestic abuse are not valid. So a woman who is forced into years of slave labor by gang members after they murder her husband is turned away. “MS-13, BAD! Happening somewhere else? Fuck ‘em! Not my problem.”
I could go on and on about the long-term psychological and emotional damage being done to children separated from their parents, but those who understand that… well, they understand that. And those who don’t… well, they won’t listen to it anyway.
And just a quick note to MB: Dude! While I agree with some of your comments here today… Slave labor? Seriously?? Pretty sure that’s something this country is supposed to be against, man.
Here’s a thought for us all to consider – Stop being afraid of “the other”.
If I may, Allyson: To those who are bitching and crying about having to read anything political on this site I offer a suggestion… Go elsewhere. Simple.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexican-kids-held-for-months-as-punishment-for-border-crossing/2015/03/10/311d319a-b2f2-11e4-bf39-5560f3918d4b_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6247e7f1c62b
But its cool, go ahead and keep saying its Trump's fault
Zero Tolerance arrest and separation is a TRUMP POLICY. It is not a LAW.
Yes, it is true minors were held in centers BEFORE today - as a result of Operation Streamline, started in 2005 by President Bush. That program was aimed at separating "illegal" children from adults who would be a DANGER TO THEM. Drug gangs, traffickers, smugglers, etc.
Did some children get held incorrectly? Probably, the government makes mistakes. Did the government have a policy to force illegal border crossing to disallow asylum then? No. An illegal border crossing is the lowest level federal misdemeanor possible. Essentially the federal equivalent of a parking ticket. You want to take away a person's kid for a parking ticket?
When you step to me, come armed with facts.
Keep cheering as you see brown children in cages. The public outcry on this is loud and swift and this policy will be changing. Mark it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/fact-check-did-obama-administration-separate-families-n884856?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
Oh and for the crack about Russia? What are we up to now - 20 indictments, a campaign chairman in jail, 5 or 6 guilty pleas? Mueller is just getting started.
1 - there is no 'improper' way to seek asylum. So long as people walk in to your country and seek out an immigration official and announce they are refugees, they have come legally. When your border patrol find them and lock them up, they are by definition in the hands of authorities and that is legal
2 - Women fleeing violence in South America that still has it's roots in the activity of the CIA are unlikely to be Islamic terrorists. The mundane truth is that terrorism is very rare. Especially in the USA, where it's dwarfed by random shootings by people born there.
3 - Building a wall sounds like a great idea. East Germany did that, it worked great for them.
4 - No country wants wide open borders. No political party wants that.
EddieLongHair, thank you for your words of wisdom. Christian, great to see you posting here again after so long. Your words also provide much needed perspective. Allyson, thank you for the facts.
Now, Eddie, I can understand my idea sounds radical but it would be effective. ALL illegals would help build the wall WITHOUT pay. They would be trained in the art of bricklaying, would work 8 hours a day, while being provided decent housing WITHOUT having their families separated.
Schools and day care centers would be set up so the illegals can have peace of mind while working on the wall by day knowing their children will be safe until they would pick them up at the end of the day to their modest housing which would also be built by them before their work on the wall would begin.
They would always have the option to leave freely to return to the other side of the border with their families intact. With the millions of illegals here we would have plenty of people to help build the wall.
This approach would effectively kill two birds with one stone, (1) as a productive way to build the wall and also, (2) deter new illegals from attempting to enter our country.
Once the wall is complete, the families will have earned their citizenship and would be free to move anywhere.
The other option would be to train them all as astronauts for Trump’s new Space Force! They would help build a series of interconnecting space stations on the moon. Eventually, they will be able to apply to join Trump’s Space Force to fight against illegal immigration in space!
All sides in a political debate--and it seems that this thread has bordered on that title--should be held to a standard of stating what they think and backing that up with something salient. I have obviously urged a somewhat similar standard on occasion when it comes to debates involving music. But I digress . . .
No person advancing a political agenda--be they conservative, liberal, libertarian, or what have you--does their side of a debate any good engaging in non sequiturs, straw men, or red herrings. Sure, it is fun. But it gets us nowhere. Moreover, gloating when you get the facts right (I teased my assumptions in my first post, without suggesting that people were off base, misguided, or insincere if they didn't know/care/consider the difference) also shuts down a discussion right quick. At points like that, this site starts to look a wee bit too much like other sites. So I tend to pull back.
Consider: is it right to separate children from their parents? Yes or no? Well, maybe. It might be the case that one modifies the initial question to ask: is there a right way to separate children from their parents? That opens up the field a bit, allowing all to consider a host of options. I am not trying to persuade you all to use the Toulmin model. I am just suggesting that you can actually have a debate on a topic people disagree about in a constructive manner (and this would apply to border security as well).
So let me circle back to a (respectful and honest) slam that Metalboy! lobbed at me a few months ago: why not be political, Him? Why not take a stand? I think the reasons are obvious. This site devolves when people start pitching fits and taking shots on political issues. I care deeply about politics. But I don't care to air my view here (most of the time). Reason being, that isn't why I am here. Those that want to do so, by all means, go for it. All I am saying is that a deep and passionately held belief can be expressed in a variety of ways. And we all have a choice as to how we wish to express said beliefs.
Allyson, this is your site. You stated your beliefs. And thank you for letting others state what they think. I just wonder if any of them would pause to consider: could I have stated what I care about in a more constructive fashion?
I know. I sound pedantic. What can I say? Guilty.
The thing is, everyone is outraged at pictures of kids in cages. Will you just not get to see pictures of kids who died because they had no way to escape? Or will that be fine because it happened somewhere else?
The internet has destroyed society. Instead of proper news sources that are accountable and credible, everyone can find exactly the BS they want to believe.
Christian: Thank you so much for being a part of this conversation and providing your unique insight. I had no idea that your politics down under [unfortunately] share the same undertones, anger and indignation as we are currently experiencing in the US. People claiming to be an "Australian Trump"...that's one for the ages. I'd say that's laughable, but I can't. Simply put, it's sad.