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Oct082010

Dear Poison: We Want New Music, Not Another Rehash

So Poison will release a box set November 9. The box set, called Nothin’ But a Good Time: The Poison Collection will feature “34 studio hits and concert recordings, plus an exclusive, limited edition ‘Every Rose Has Its Thorn’ bandana.”

Seriously.

A bandana? Oh my.

Why, oh why, do these bands we love keep doing this to us? Must we have another rehash? The box set will have the songs on 2 CDs. I’d say this would be worth buying if there was a rarities disc, too but as it stands, who needs this? It’s all music we already have.

Songs included in the box set include "Every Rose Has Its Thorn," "Unskinny Bop," and "Something To Believe In," among others. The cool part is that the box set includes a full-color booklet with photos.

But seriously, we need some new music. Or some rarities. Or a DVD…something rare or new. Rehash, repackage, re-scam-the-loyal-fans-who-love-you. Whatever. Poison will soon celebrate 25 years of Glam. If that doesn’t call for new music, I don’t know what does. Sure, we’ll all still want to hear “Look What the Cat Dragged In” when we see Poison in concert. But we’ll take a couple new tunes, too.

Nothin’ But a Good Time: The Poison Collection will be released via Capitol/EMI.  

Here's Bret Michaels' new video, too. "Riding Against the Wind"


Reader Comments (27)

I genuinely don't understand why you seem annoyed about this. If you don't want to buy the box set thingee: don't buy it. *shrug* I'm sure that releasing it wasn't meant to be an insult against anybody.
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKiki Chrome
I'm pretty sure that Poison didn't have much of a say in the matter if it is being released by Capitol/EMI. That's thier old record lable. Capitol/EMI is not interested in releasing new Poison music.
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterrock till ya drop
Actually I like this song, Even though I think it's got a little country vibe, Kinda catchy, Reminds me of a Bon Jovi tune
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterSCOTT
I agree with you 100% Allyson...Ive been dealing with this as a KISS fan for YEARS. I can only think that Poison is trying to hit the younger markets who may not already have their music...and yet they are not really marketing to them.

A nice rarities, or live, or even demo disc in that box set would be so much more valuable to me as a fan than a bandana.

I really enjoyed the last new music which I think was Hollyweird...was a great cd. Would love to see the boys pull together for something like that for the anniversary.
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterDesign That Rocks
If that "Riding Against the Wind" song is any indication of what the new music would sound like, I would say keep rehashing old stuff. That song was terrible.
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterBrian C.
I have to admit I'm a bit impressed that Capital is putting this together but this bandana garbage has got to stop!!! I wish the band would put some new songs together but we all know its the Bret Michaels show at this point....breaks my heart! Oh well....I'm curious if the rest of the band is supportive of this coming out?? Will Native Tongue be included???? I'm not buying it for a damn bandana, coloring book and another bunch of versions of Every Rose.....if they include some cool features the real fans will love I'm all for it. It is what it is right...
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterkari
Hear hear, Kari! I'm impressed that Capitol would even bother (considering their patchy and downright obstructive history with the band), but heck: they can jump on the Bret Michaels gravy train the same as anyone else right now. And if the rest of the guys in Poison make some money out of it, then who's complaining?

I love all the guys in Poison for the fact that they've given me so much joy over the years, but at this stage they really owe me nothing. If they never feel inclined to write together ever again, then I'm okay with that. It doesn't mean I love the band any less. It's sad to lose that sort of magic, but all artistic collaborations (eg. bands) are inevitably fleeting. We can't expect a group of men to stay 22 forever. People change and go in different directions. Sometimes they come back together and sometimes they don't. I don't feel aggrieved about it because I know that, realistically, it's not aimed at hurting me. They didn't write those albums for my sake in the first place, and they're not going to stop writing for my sake either. It's not apathy or a sign that I don't care about them: it's just that I don't think they have any kind of debt to me.

And no, I don't need an Every Rose bandanna either. But if the guys in Poison want my money... well... I might just have to send them a postal order or something. :) Heaven knows, I can't see them back in New Zealand again anytime soon!
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKiki Chrome
Not the biggest poison fan in the world but yeah this seems a bit much. Its like Quiet Riot having seemingly more Greates hits albums available thatn actaul studio material albums. The bandana- no comment. Ozzy screwed fans over with the prince of darkness 4 cd set but true that did have some live and rare stuff but the 1st disc was all easy availabe material of the hack job 02 remasters and cd 4 was the under cover album that came out 2 yrs prior and missing songs. New material would defintly help Poison more than this.
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterShadow
If that's all that' in the box set, then it's a disappointment. The book sounds like the only worthwhile portion of the set. No picks? No vintage concert posters? No backstage pass replicas? Big miss.
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRich
Hate to bring this up again since this was already debated in great length in another post, but the reason is piracy. If you can't break even financially on a record, the record label, investors, and band will not want to take a loss if they can rely on their back catalog.

In other news though, the members of Poison are still releasing new music. CC occasionally guests on other artists albums, Rikki released his solo album, and Bret is regularly releasing new material. And just a couple of years ago, Poison released their live DVD Live, Raw, and Uncut.
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterBlaine
Design that rocks.....happy to know that I am not the only one in the world who thought that Hollyweird was actually good music. Of course as a big Poison fan I had been starving for years for something new.
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered Commenternc rocker
First Love Poison probably my #2 favorite band. I want new music from those guys as well. I agree they should capitalize on the Brett train.. However I am not so happy with Brett.

Paid for fourth row tickets at his recent show here in NW Arkansas...

Was suprised when the lights dropped and over the PA Welcome to the Jungle is blasting and the spot light/strobe lights start going off..

I felt like it was kinda lame to open your show with another bands song especially GNR.

Then he played 9 songs and called it a night. All Poison except for the rock of love song and a sweet home alabama cover...

Enjoyed the show for the most part..

He promised to come back net summer and do a better show.

Felt like he sold out a little..
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterShawn
The new Bret Michaels CD is the worst $12 that I have ever spent in my life. Total garbage. As for this new box set, even lamer. Its a shame that my one-time all-time favorite band Poison has stooped so low. I completely and entirely blame Bret. Poison shows every summer were always completely enjoyable until he started the whole rock of love BS. Now they cant seem to play anything more than the same 10 songs. The only reason I even went to the last 2 or so Poison shows was because I got free tickets. Screw you Bret. Youve done nothing in years for your REAL fans.
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKenny Ozz
Cash grab, plain and simple....
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterGary
I actually really, really liked Hollyweird. One of my favorite Poison albums. I really liked Bret's Rock My World, and didn't hate Custom Built (though I think it really could've done w/o the rerecordings of Go That Far, Driven, Every Rose, and Nothin' To Lose).
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterBlaine
Hate to break it to you, kiddies, but Poison was always about the money.

However, I think they actually put out a work of art with "Look What The Cat Dragged In" quite by accident despite their single minded goal to rake in the cash.

As far as their forthcoming greatest hits package, why don't they use Aerosmith's "Pandora's Box " as a template? It included mostly previously unreleased stuff but also remastered "essentials".

It opens with a previously unreleased Steven Tyler pre-Aerosmith cut, "When I Needed You" from his time in The Strangeurs, his first band.

Then it gets into alternate demo and live versions of their various hits interspersed with original hit recordings. Songs from all of the other members various solo projects are also represented including a cut from Whitford/St. Holmes and The Joe Perry Project.

This is how Poison should roll. They should include all of the Paris stuff, the first permutation of the band from back in the very beginning when they were in Pennsylvania.

They should include some solo stuff from everybody.

Maybe a DVD of Rare Previously unreleased early live performances including the black and white Paris stuff and their very first club and arena performances.

Then this thing would be worth springin' for. If it's basically just rereleases of the hits why bother. At least put out mini-replicas of the original LP releases from '86 forward....

And conclude the set with a live version of "I Wanna Rock And Roll All Nite", their cover of Kiss.
October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
Seriously? Sorry to break it to some of you, but yes Poison is about the money. As is all your other favorite bands. Who gets in the music biz to break even or be poor? Do you think when Motley Crue was sharing a run down house that they thought it would always be that way? No. They were struggling for the hope that one day they could afford to live a lavish lifestyle. I know that we would all like to think that our favorite bands are full of integrity and create music for love of their art, but in most instances, that in not the case. Even the bands that still hang around, while just earning a living are doing it because it is better than a 9-5 & they don't know what else to do with themselves, imo. I am not saying anyone should go out & buy this crap. I won't be & I am a HUGE Poison fan. I am just saying that for every band you can name for me with "integrity", I can name you dozens that, if given the opportunity, would do what bands like Poison, K.I.S.S., Motley Crue & many, MANY others do.
October 9, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterGEO II
I think some of you are missing the point. We "REAL Poison fans" are not disappointed in the box set, but what is on it. Istead of just throwing out the same old shit in a new package they should of thrown something in there fo rthe REAL fans and collectors. Old Paris demos, unreleased songs, B-sides, 2-3 new songs, ANYTHING. I know I can speak for several of us here when I say that if it had a few new songs or whatever that we would of bought it! This is Poison, yet again, forgetting about their REAL fans and just pandering to their new crowd. Absolutely lame!
October 9, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKenny Ozz
Agree 100%. How can they have a box set when the don't have enough actual studio albums to fill a entire box!
October 9, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJohnny Mac
Um, hang on... does anyone actually KNOW how the guys in Poison feel about this? This album is being released by Capitol/EMI, after all. The label has the right to put out a box set of any songs on their catalog, and the band doesn't necessarily get any say at all.

Look at the greatest hits album Capitol put out in the mid-90s... instead of releasing Crack a Smile (which had already been recorded, mostly at the band's expense, and was ready to go). Capitol don't care that Poison have a handful of devoted followers (like us) who already have all these songs. They smell money in all the 12-year-olds who see Bret on VH1 and think he's super-hot! :D

And, you know what? If they hadn't smelled money in THIS 12-year-old a long time ago, then Poison probably wouldn't have had a career in the first place. I'm sorry, but that's just how the music business works. You can think that's unfair if you like, but it's quite simple: there are more of those new VH1 teeny boppers than there are of us. It's supply and demand.

I'll reiterate my first point: Jeesh! I don't understand why anyone would get so upset about this! None of us OWN Poison (or their back catalog) and so why is it somehow defiant/ungrateful/evil of their old label to put out a greatest hits package? Buying a few albums does not mean that the band members become our slaves, who must obey our every desire. I bought their music, I didn't buy their souls!
October 10, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKiki Chrome

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