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Jul152012

Is Corey Hart Glam?

You remember Corey Hart, right? The Canadian who rose to fame in the 80s thanks to songs like "Never Surrender" and "Sunglasses at Night." I never really considered Hart Glam until yesterday when I was randomly listening to "Never Surrender" and it dawned on me that the song sounded a lot like Sleez Beez-era Glam. Now, "Never Surrender" came out in 1985, so maybe the song laid the groundwork for Sleez Beez? At any rate, I think "Never Surrender" is definitely Glam, even if the rest of Hart's work is not. And at the end of the day it doesn't matter because I love the music regardless!



Reader Comments (28)

Hahaha!!! I think the lines are starting to blur on you, Allyson, which Dan from heavyharmonies.com eludes to regarding all the genres of 80's Rock in his introduction to that site.

But I'm afraid you need Metalboy! to crash you back to reality on this one... And if someone can explain this better please rescue me!

Corey Hart is 80's AOR!

Really more 80's West Coast AOR.

AOR stands for Album Oriented Rock. But it's really come to mean more than that. It's really more about being like something that belongs on Lite-FM Radio.

Where I think some of the confusion comes in is when, throughout 80's Hair Metal History (including many Glam Metal) there have been honest to goodness Hard Rock bands that resorted to co-opting elements of AOR in order to get air play and hits. Keyboards are a definite trademark of AOR.

Probably Van Halen's "Jump" is probably the first example of crossing the line into AOR and they were certainly chastised for it and will never totally be forgiven for it by most diehard Rockers.

If one listens to Sleez Beez, "This Time", for example, it's definitely very AORish but, there's something that sets it apart from the short haired AOR of Corey Hart... And that something is guitars!

Where Corey Hart goes for Bryan Adams style guitars, Sleez Beez goes for heavier power chords that pop from the mix no matter how hard the record company attempted to bury them in the mix.

My advice... Don't get detoured by the Corey Harts of the world, even if I have always thought somebody of our genre could do a mean cover of "Sunglasses At Night".

So, caution -- Avoid AOR at all costs or you will wind up donning a mullet and listening to Richard Marx while wearing a Members Only jacket, stonewashed jeans and Reebok hightops. And, Al, you better be careful too... Farrah Fawcett's hairdo, Jordache and Candie's await!
July 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
2 great tunes from the 80's. Thx Alyson for the reminder 'bout Corey.
July 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterKixchix
Allyson you really need to lace up your Doc Marten Jackboots and kick me off your site. I'm nothing but disrespectful and full of myself. I honestly believe that everyone takes my words as gospel, as they SHOULD! Change the name to Metalboy! BRINGS BACK GLAM TO REALITY!
I honestly hate myself.
July 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
I see nothing "glam" about Corey Hart (though I have to admit he did release a few pretty cool tunes back in the day). I would put Corey Hart in a category with Rick Springfield, John Wait and Bryan Adams... "80's commercial rock" is what I would call it. As Alyson said... "at the end of the day it doesn't matter"... It doesn't have to be glam to be good.

PS - I love John Waite's solo stuff..even seen him live. Same with Rick Springfield.. seen him live also (he is actually a really good guitar player). Nothing wrong with Brian Adams as I saw him show back it the day. There is nothing wrong with a little diversity every now and then.
July 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRock-It
No! No! No ! Not Glam! Not even close!
July 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRita
Good song, but not remotely in any way, shape or form is it Glam.
July 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJack
While Corey Hart is in no way glam, he had a great voice that would've gone great in the genre'. That angst-y gravel would have been good with some good, sleazy glam songs & a glittering band behind him.

I see all the references to John Waite here, now THERE is a great example of a glammy vocalist of that type! I was fortunate to see the original lineup of the Babys when they first came out & that was an excellent glam band. I've also see John lately & he STILL has one of the best voices in rock!

In fact, I saw him last summer, playing a tiny bar down by the beach, & not only did he pack the place, he rocked the dump! As always, I had my trusty mini-video camera with me. Here's John Waite opening with "CHANGE" 8/05/2011 at the Brixton Southbay, in Redondo Beach, California.

Great song, great singer. Now if only he'd get over his attitude & reunite w/ Michael Corby & the original Babys lineup for a reunion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLMaz_5-4Z4
July 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
Ace. Cool vid man. Thanks! Guy does have a killer voice.
July 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterGary
Not glam. Not even close.
July 15, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterscott whitt
Jeff -- Do you really need to co-op my identity to make your point? Stand up like a man and make your comments under your own name. You couldn't be so wrong about me, my friend. I could care less if people agree with me or not. I am giving my opinion. I simply answered the question as to whether Corey Hart is Glam. So crank up your Nickelback and head on back to you know where you belong. Or answer the question of the post rather than attack someone commenting.

Ace, Rock-It -- I'm with ya on John Waite. I even used to hire his former guitarist, John Curry. Waite's solo stuff and even some of the AOR crap he did with Neil Schon (another AORist -- Huh-uh-lo-oh, Journey) in their "supergroup", Bad English. But, as Ace points out, Waite really did a job on The Babys. What a brutal break up! If what Corby says is true, Waite is one helluvan as*shole. Still there's no denying his talent.

Ace -- you are probably aware of this but AOR staple, "Change" by John Waite, was originally written and performed by Holly Knight with her band at the time, SPIDER. check out he original on YouTube, too, though I will say I prefer Waite's. It really is a perfect example of AOR done right, unlike the UNROCK Corey Hart (I DO like the video of "Nev Surrender", however).

With ya on Rick Springfield, too, Rock-It. He put out a fair amount of decent L.A. Style Power Pop, "I've Done Everything For You", being one of the better gems he not only performs but wrote, as well. For a Glam Metalized version of that check out Trixie's version. It kinda sounds like Crüe doin' it, which of course, makes it WAY MORE COOLER tham the original!

And you guys can have Brian Adams. Though he is of similar ilk to Springfield, he's frickin' boring!

Hello, ROCK & ROLL!!!
July 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
Ace and everybody else for that matter -- have you checked out Michael Corby's site? The story of The Baby's and John Waite's orchestration of Corby's firing, if it's true, is one of THE Biggest Rock & Roll Crimes of The Century...

And if that duzn't make you cry, just think about what could have been -- How huge The Baby's could have been had Waite's not f*cked it up. Grab the Kleenex and watch The Babys on The Merv Griffin Show including the extensive interview, if you can find it. Looks like they pulled it from YouTube, unfortunately.

What a waste this band was destroyed before it hit it's peak. Talk about wishing to Bring Back Glam!
July 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
wiggy's opinion is that Corey Hart isnt even close to Glam,...not even sure how that comparison could come up...I'm confused now!
July 16, 2012 | Unregistered Commentertoddwiggy
Metalboy! Have to set the record straight.

Rick Springfield only covered I've Done Everything For You, which was actually written by Sammy Hagar. I found this out because I actually started listening to Rick's stuff over the last couple of years. I had no idea his library was that extensive and that he was actually that talented, having written tons and tons of music over the years. Was really surprised. 17 Top 40 hits too apparently. And I must say, pretty easy on the eyes to boot.

Not Glam but still pretty good when you're in the mood for something a little mellower.
July 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRita
Metalboy! Yeah, I'm well aware of Holly Knight. I got to know her pretty well during the year she spent recording her band "DEVICE" at Cherokee Recording Studios. Her poor producer, Mike Chapman continually got peppered with questions about the Sweet & his days working with them, from me. Both of them are incredible talents, & good people! And a good call on Springfield. Another cool guy, with some great songs in his repetoire. Check out his tune, "What's Victoria's Secret?" Good song.
July 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
not glam at all but does have some good tunes, hee was hugely popular in the 80,s
July 16, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterglamrockerarchie
and metalboy what are you talkin about i didnt post anythin using your co op unless somebody else has the same name as i.
July 16, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterglamrockerarchie
Glamrockerarch! Not you. Dude usually posts as Jeff but occasionally posts as Metalboy!, breaking one of the unwritten cardinal sins of web posting, out of his own cowardice just to harass me. Still waiting for your OWN opinions, Jeff!

Ace -- Yeah... Chapman! What a genius! I got 3 words for ya regarding his life after SWEET...

BLONDIE PARALLEL LINES

Debby's Harry talks about how meeting Chapman was the best thing that happened to her professionally -- driving her crazy with his ideas and drive for excellence. Of course, he screwed up a fair amount of stuff, too. But that album is an absolute PERFECT RECORD.

Though those days for me are long gone and I don't recommend anyone try this at home, let's just say, for all of it's Rock & Roll Glam Rock New Wave Power Pop Bubblegum Punk Attitude, that album is also a beautifully and subtly Psychedelic Masterpiece. It's Art! And much of it is owed to Chapman's encyclopedic life having been involved in pioneering so many of those Genres of Rock & Roll.

Rita! Holy Glam! I had no idea Springfield's "I've Done Everything For You" is a cover of Sammy Hagar! Wait 'til Hagar Superfan, Kari, reads this! But ya still gotta check out Trixie's Crüe like cover of the song. It really is better than Springfield's -- and I'm gonna bet, Hagar's. Thanks for setting the record straight, Rita. Also, one other thing, if you wouldn't mind setting the record straight on, if you would...

Are you married? Because I think I'm in love with you!
July 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
I thought about this post again this morning. When I got in my car, the first song that came on Hair Nation was from Honeymoon Suite. While they are not glam, there songs ling of fit. The reason is that so many of the glam songs are just hard pop. At lot of it has to do with what uniform you are wearing. When the grunge movement came in. I would hear some of the bands and they sounded like a hard rock band. They just wore different outfits.
July 17, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterscott whitt
Metalboy! You are the best! Made my day. Thanks. And I will check out Trixie's cover.
July 17, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRita
Rita! Hahaha!!! But you didn't answer my question!

Scott! Very insightful. Yeah! Honeymoon Suite! LOVE their stuff. One of Canada's finest. They are among the Top of the Heap of AOR. Got all their stuff on CD and in my playlists. I would say their also on the softer side of Hair Metal, too, cuz of their whole "Powerballads n' Powerchords" approach mixed in with their sublime AOR keyboards. Plus the fact their on Hairnation would, I think, warrant that categorization.

Fave Honeymoon Suite songs:

1) "Feel It Again"

2) "New Girl Now"

In that order. With a big gap in between as "Feel It Again" is the standout!
July 17, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!

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